4K laptops definitely still have quite a few
problems that need to be worked out, so let’s discuss some of them and find out if they’re
a gimmick, or game-changer! So a friend of mine recently stopped using
this 15” laptop with 4K display because he’s finally become so sick of the problems
associated with 4K. He’s swapped back 1080p laptop, so I thought I’d test out the 4K
one for myself to either see just how bad it is, or find out if it’s the future. On first use I put my eyes as close to the
screen as I could, comparing it with a 1080p screen of the same size. The 4K screen is
definitely noticeably nicer close up, it’s easy to see the pixels on the 1080p display
this close but still very difficult on 4K. That said, when viewing either at a normal
distance I wasn’t able to tell the difference, but that’s definitely personal, maybe I
have crap eyes. This particular laptop only has an Nvidia
970m, so to actually game at 4K there’s a fair bit of sacrifice in terms of quality.
Personally I’d prefer to have both higher settings and better frame rates in game with
1080p at this screen size, on a larger monitor it might be more worthwhile but so far at
15 inches 4K isn’t providing me with any real benefits yet. For example in Rise of the Tomb Raider I can
run with medium settings at 1080p and get 58 FPS, but at 4K the same test on the same
hardware only gets 21 FPS. Even if we take it to minimum settings 4K only got 26 FPS.
In 4K it’s both performing worse, and overall looking worse. A higher resolution is probably
quite nice, once you’re able to run at acceptable frame rates with decent settings, to me those
things come ahead of higher resolution. At this screen size it just doesn’t seem worth
it. What about 4K on a larger external monitor? Sure, I can see that being a decent experience
if you’ve got a good graphics card, but in a small laptop screen? Probably not. Of course you’d have a better experience
with a better graphics card, but there’s still the fact that running at 4K uses more
power when compared to 1080p, and as a laptop is designed for portability this is kind of
a big deal. Even if you’re not gaming, you’ll still be using slightly more battery just
to power the extra pixels, and of course a more powerful graphics card will in itself
use more battery power too. But those aren’t the only issues, even just
day to day use of the laptop for normal tasks has all sorts of weird inconsistencies. By
default when the resolution is set to 4K, Windows defaults to scaling to 250%, if we
set it to 100% we can see that it’s just horrible, the user interface is way too small
to use. So we leave it at 250% and everything should be fine right? Nope. Not all applications
are affected by this setting, for example here I’m opening a few different apps and
the sizing is just all wrong, more are a lot smaller than they should be and you basically
have to squint, it’s a pretty bad experience compared to 1080p. This gets much worse if
you have a 1080p external monitor plugged in, if you move a window that appears to be
sized properly from one to the other, it completely changes and just looks stupid. Many websites aren’t designed with the 4K
resolution in mind either. Long story short, modern software still has
a problem making use of all the available pixels that 4K provides in a way that translates
to a good user experience. As this is primarily a software based issue, it should be something
that can at least be fixed in the future, so if you have bought into 4K, don’t worry
too much, things should only improve from here, I mean surely they can’t get any worse.
With that said I think there are still some important aspects to be aware of, such as
the extra graphical power you’ll need to push so many pixels, which will drain your
battery faster. In the future as interfaces and websites improve
the experience will get better, even gaming at 4K should become easier as hardware improves,
but for now I find 4K on a laptop a tough pill to swallow all round. So what do you guys think about laptops with
4K displays? Would you get one? I’ll definitely be staying away from them for now, at least
until the software side of things has improved a bit. Let me know your thoughts down in the
comments, and leave a like on the video if you found the information useful. Thanks for
watching, and don’t forget to subscribe for future tech videos like this one.

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100 thoughts on “Problems With 4K Laptops – Should you buy 4K?

  • November 28, 2017 at 7:24 pm
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    Awesome video! Keep it up even if you don't have that many views at the moment. 🙂 I like your content.

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  • December 2, 2017 at 5:05 am
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    Thank you, Jarrod, I love watching your logical reviews.

    Can you please also assist in setting up a latest 50" 4k Samsung TV with HDR settings for PS4 Pro?

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  • December 5, 2017 at 4:28 am
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    Virtual machine for ants 😀

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  • December 11, 2017 at 9:50 pm
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    Those who have 4k screens & don't wanna deal with those problems, can just set the resolution to 1080P, right? (buy an expensive 4k laptop & use it in 1080) 🙂

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  • December 19, 2017 at 11:37 am
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    Saw my friends Asus 4k laptop, along with his Dell XPS 4k laptop as well, these are top of the line in terms of display. I compared it to a MBP 2017 display, and while there were definitely more pixels in the 4k laptops, visually the difference was little. On daily use when I saw him code (we are engineers) everything was so tiny, he ended up wearing glasses to utilize the 4k or enlarge icons (wasting real estate). I was going to wait upgrading my laptop until 4k displays became more popular, but after that, I noticed 2k seems to be the sweet spot for under 17' inches. It's a marketing scam people fall for to get 4k on laptops, they are best served on larger 20-something screens where there is physical real estate to go with the resolution to scale icons much more effectively.

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  • December 20, 2017 at 11:41 am
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    I have a 4k laptop. I am going back to 1080p when the time comes to replace this one.

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  • December 24, 2017 at 2:27 pm
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    is it bad to get a 4k laptop

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  • January 9, 2018 at 9:53 am
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    Totaly agree.. i had yoga with 1050GTX 4K.. changed it to the same laptop but with FHD.. just couse the UHD have a black line on it (Defect in production on all UHD)! and the battry life is 20% better! now i see (with the video) some more problems.. so yes! go for the FHD

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  • January 14, 2018 at 7:09 am
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    I have a 4K laptop and I love it.

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  • January 16, 2018 at 6:36 pm
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    Thanks for the information, I was gonna buy 4k laptop, now 1080p is the right choice for me..

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  • January 16, 2018 at 10:42 pm
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    Short answer imo: No. Buy a 1080p 120hz screen is FAR more worth it for a laptop.

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  • January 18, 2018 at 7:54 pm
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    what do you think is the bes 4k video editing laptop

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  • January 27, 2018 at 2:36 pm
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    Good video. Subscribed 🙂

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  • February 1, 2018 at 3:27 pm
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    You just saved me a thousand bucks. Thanks!

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  • February 6, 2018 at 6:20 pm
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    Thank you!

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  • February 11, 2018 at 6:14 pm
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    100 % correct !

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  • February 11, 2018 at 6:15 pm
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    4k 1:1 scalling which size monitor is perfect ?

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  • February 12, 2018 at 5:03 pm
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    The answer depends on the use case and budget. I do use it (4K), and I do love it

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  • February 15, 2018 at 11:50 pm
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    If I get a 4k screen and just play down at 1080p, will the fps be the same with a laptop with just a 1080p native display?

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  • February 21, 2018 at 12:25 pm
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    What about 1080p gaming on 4k screen?

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  • February 27, 2018 at 12:24 pm
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    lol dude change the panel

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  • March 3, 2018 at 3:46 pm
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    Does keeping it at 1080 sort out the scaling issues, cus even with it at 250% on 4K I barely see much writing

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  • March 6, 2018 at 7:35 pm
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    Does 4k laptop drain more battery life??

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  • March 7, 2018 at 4:02 pm
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    buy no cheap shit and you have no problems…. idiot^^

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  • March 19, 2018 at 2:05 pm
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    Use Nvidia DSR for 4K rendering in games

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  • March 24, 2018 at 10:43 am
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    could go to display settings and run it at 1080 except when watching movies, then turn it back to 4k. id totally do that.

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  • March 29, 2018 at 5:01 am
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    4K gaming pshh.. Wait at least 5 years until graphics cards become more powerful and cheaper. Today cards are only stable playing all games at 1440P and lowered. I got a 240Hz monitor 1080P sold my gtx 1080ti because it lagged on like 2 games that I love playing. Are you kidding me.? Sold the card for 750 a week ago, bought my self a ps4 pro plus a 4K 55 hdr tv all for 750. Yes 750!

    Gtx 1080Ti on 1080P 240Hz monitor sounds overkill right? Well it lagged on two games and some games would force close at times, problems.

    55 4K hdr tv plus ps4 pro sounds okay right but the actual experience is wonderful I enjoy that more plus I get No issues. Cheap and wonderful experience.

    4K gaming is a joke. I love buttery frame flows, I would need two Titan xp in sli and that would be about 3K Just for the cards..

    Anybody else agrees with me? If not, thanks for reading have a nice day.

    Edit: 4K on PC is a joke. Expensive AF. Worthless At That Price.
    On Console is a Win. Cheap and wonderful experience.

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  • April 4, 2018 at 5:54 pm
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    Thanks for the video Jarrod. I do have a question though: If I bring down the resolution to 1080p on a 4k laptop, will all the problems you mentioned go away? And how do you think it compares when playing 1080p on a 4k laptop to playing 1080p on a native 1080pFHD laptop? And does lowering the resolution lower the power consumption and temperature as well?

    There is a deal for a 4k gaming laptop (7577 inspiron for 999 dollars) and I am looking forward to hearing your answer as I will be basing my purchasing decision on it. Thanks in advance

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  • April 5, 2018 at 3:19 am
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    Why the fuck does an under powered laptop has a 4k display.

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  • April 11, 2018 at 12:49 am
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    Why not mention use cases for content creators, especially since you can relate as you are a content creator yourself?

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  • April 18, 2018 at 9:26 pm
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    I got 1… it’s not as bad as before, they finally started to fix the major problems.

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  • April 19, 2018 at 6:07 am
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    4k is just gimmik for laptops. I dont even notice a difference between them. Will you do a review of 2018 Xps 15.

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  • April 19, 2018 at 11:04 pm
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    4k is a sure way to make everything on your screen look super crisp. I just got the dell 7577 with a 4k display and I'm SO DAMN HAPPY I did.

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  • April 20, 2018 at 12:45 pm
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    Yeah I had some of this similar issues

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  • April 21, 2018 at 10:15 am
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    Jesus, glad i didnt order the 7577 with 4k display

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  • April 21, 2018 at 3:33 pm
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    The problem with default FullHD tech is the panel quality is often lower than the 4K version (poor gamut, backlight bleed, etc), and it's only 1080p (which isn't really "FullHD" today). I wish more laptops had a 1440p screen option (UHD). But yes, with 4K screens you sacrifice a lot of battery, and it costs way more. So consumers are often forced to get the cheap display that some people (including myself) regret.

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  • April 26, 2018 at 10:37 am
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    Hi great page ☺ Keep it up!

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  • April 28, 2018 at 11:52 pm
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    Yup, tried a Razer 12" with 4K…BIG mistake, had to return it…if I were "super" techie, maybe, but most of my graphics programs freaked out…was an aggravating month.

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  • May 2, 2018 at 12:39 am
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    Hei I really enjoy your channel ☺ Keep it up!

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  • May 2, 2018 at 10:19 pm
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    1:52 look at that tearing :/

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  • May 10, 2018 at 9:34 am
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    I have a GTX 1070 powered 15 inch laptop with 4K screen.
    I agree that a 4k display in a laptop is an overkill in pretty much every aspect, including gaming, but there IS a very obvious difference between running games @1080p and native 4K even on a screen that small.
    I can promise you that you will not wanna go back to GTA V 1080p after playing it in 4k 60 FPS, even on 15 inch, which GTX 1070 can provide.
    So can you see it? – yes, you can. Is it worth numerous sacrifices (power draw, battery life, turning some settings down, etc.) and, especially, the price difference – no, absolutely not.

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  • May 13, 2018 at 7:39 pm
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    thank you

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  • May 19, 2018 at 4:12 am
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    can't you just swap the resolution to 1080p instead of 4k? Not sure why he'd need a whole new laptop..

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  • May 27, 2018 at 5:40 am
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    You get used pretty quickly to 4K. Nowadays only Java Swing programs are still not updated to 4K. 85% of everything you will use will be working just fine in 4k. It is fantastic to read in 4k Screens. If you only game, do not get a 4K. If you work with your laptop, a 4K screen is an amazing extra to have.

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  • June 3, 2018 at 8:18 pm
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    Why do manufacturers rarely use qhd instead of uhd? Because i like the higher quality but i don't like how it's too pricy and playing games on it is hard. So why not just use 2k instead of 4?

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  • June 13, 2018 at 5:11 pm
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    Most people don’t think of gaming when you say laptop. You title the video 4K laptops and compare it to gaming which I could care less about. Just that sexy screen why would I buy a 4K laptop to game honestly

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  • June 17, 2018 at 11:36 pm
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    I'm using a 4k laptop and aside from the quirks you've mentioned, most things look amazing, after a few weeks of using it you get so used to the clarity that going back to 1080p, is like going from 1080p to standard def! It's all the subtle stuff that makes the difference, icons, thumbnails etc. The icons in firefox look so damn crisp, Outlook also looks super crisp. It takes a bit of fiddling to get things looking right but I wouldn't go back now. Also certain games are brilliant in 4k e.g. RTS, turn-based-strategy and tycoon type games all perform great, even quake runs a solid 60fps on 4k…

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  • June 22, 2018 at 9:21 pm
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    I bought the msi gt63 with the 4k panel, some games like dota 2 run in 4k at 120fps without problems, others like far cry 5 run to upscaled in 2k at 75fps and I think it's great.
    sorry for bad English.

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  • June 28, 2018 at 5:15 am
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    Hi Jarrod, I was thinking of buying dell inspiron 7577 with 4k display because I will use it mainly for photo and video editing and it's relatively cheap. If I lower the resolution to 1080p on a 4k display, will the Colour accuracy goes down?

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  • July 3, 2018 at 4:09 am
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    4k gaming on a laptop at max settings is pretty much a joke because most games (non Esports) wont be able to get 60 fps without sli 1080s which are only available in a couple laptops.

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  • July 5, 2018 at 6:07 pm
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    While I am used to 4K displays on laptops, I definitely prefer 1080 on anything 15” or smaller. Even my desktop isn’t 4K. I have a 3440×1440 34” for my desktop and honestly love it. If anything I think manufactures should make 2560×1440 displays. That way we could still get a crisper image that isn’t as tasking as 4K and we wouldn’t have to use Windows scaling in order to read anything.

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  • July 14, 2018 at 1:07 am
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    Great video! Thanks. I just bought a laptop and choose 1080 instead of 4K. I think some bugs need to be worked out for 4K scaling before I spend the extra money on that feature.

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  • July 14, 2018 at 8:32 pm
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    4k computer is like apple computer it lacks diversity only video editing not much in a way for gamingits also not design for cad uses

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  • August 7, 2018 at 3:52 am
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    So does that mean apple laptops are better as they have been using 2k monitors for years now and gaming is good

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  • August 27, 2018 at 1:17 am
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    My 4k tv can't play 60fps video on youtube it lags

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  • August 27, 2018 at 1:19 am
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    4k is a new technology it's not perfect yet

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  • September 8, 2018 at 7:55 pm
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    Hey Jarod I'm planning on getting a Dell G5 5587 i7 1060GTX (4K Display) for 4k video editing.. Do you think i'd need the 4k display more than the FHD ? I just wonder if i'd feel a difference on RGB..What do you think?

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  • September 10, 2018 at 8:25 am
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    It will be exactly a year since you posted this in 10 days. Have things changed?

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  • September 10, 2018 at 10:43 am
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    I was about to purchase a 2160p laptop and even had my card out before doing a final reviews check when I found this and the associated comments. Thanks you guys saved me.

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  • September 14, 2018 at 4:17 am
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    You cover things I don't even think about. Another detailed and amazing review Jarrod. I imagined that 4K came with issues, and plus I doubt I'd make good use of it.

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  • September 14, 2018 at 10:58 am
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    4K is only beneficial on screens 50inch & bigger & 1080P Better on anything smaller than 4K

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  • September 17, 2018 at 11:59 am
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    I noticed even some videos are not clear with 4k but good with 1080p. I found it very reddish with 4k. Not sure why that is.

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  • October 31, 2018 at 9:19 pm
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    So I game on my pc witch had a GTX1070 an If I game at 1440p it looks great but the Hit detection goes out the window. If I game at 1080p it looks okay but the hit detection is much better. Why does resolution cause lag or just all bad gameplay? Before any says it doesn't. Trust me! It does

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  • November 3, 2018 at 6:08 am
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    What about if I change the resolution of the screen back to 1080, would the battery life be improved? Technically the GPU is still powering the same amount pixels on the 4k panel?

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  • November 10, 2018 at 2:21 am
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    What if you put 1440p or 1080p as the resolution on the laptop? Would it still use the same amount of battery? And would the picture be kind of distorted from downscaling?

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  • November 20, 2018 at 11:39 pm
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    I'm just a photographer trying to view my shit at true quality. Not everyone is a gamer…. Granted I'm also a gamer…

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  • November 21, 2018 at 2:16 pm
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    0:30 and that's how I got glasses 👓

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  • November 25, 2018 at 7:10 pm
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    4k for 15'' or 17'' is stupid,but for 32'' is ok.

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  • December 14, 2018 at 8:20 am
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    Honestly I'm surprised that gaming laptops went straight to 4k displays not 1440p which would make more sense

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  • December 17, 2018 at 6:37 am
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    Hi Jarrod, i like your video, thank you
    Can you help me with a problem that i get with 4k Asus vivobook pro; the yellow color is like a moustard color have you the same issue ?

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  • December 19, 2018 at 4:32 pm
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    Thanks man!

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  • December 26, 2018 at 2:53 am
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    Thanks for making me feel good about not choosing the 4k option on my Dell XPS 15. I felt like I'd rather spend the money on a better cpu.

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  • December 27, 2018 at 7:04 pm
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    You will at least need two 1080ti's in sli to run any game on max settings with a 4k screen.

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  • January 12, 2019 at 7:19 pm
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    4k is for snobbish people that want only the the newest things and consider everything new to be cool, just because it''s new. The best laptop resolution is 1080, it's just all you need, and I am fine with that. We lived until now with HD/Full HD, we can live with it from now on without any problem, too.

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  • January 12, 2019 at 10:37 pm
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    Check the new version of this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92Hp1aW2_Fs

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  • January 13, 2019 at 6:43 pm
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    Cool

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  • January 15, 2019 at 7:31 pm
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    I'm using a 17R5,. I don't have a 1080p monitor to test with but the issue with regards to scaling the applications UI seems to have been addressed. Though you still have to edit the application's property settings one by one.

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  • January 21, 2019 at 10:38 am
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    I have a Alienware 15 r3 1070

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  • January 23, 2019 at 10:01 pm
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    useful info.. was looking at 4k because the option was there.. but i do not need it and the battery drain and cpu load and heat are not worth it.. as long as i can connect a 4k display when i'm home on a large screen.. i'm ok.. i don't do gaming on my laptop but use it for virtual machines..

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  • January 25, 2019 at 2:56 am
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    is it possible to replace the 4k panel with 1080p one ?

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  • January 25, 2019 at 11:17 pm
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    Have money,have 4k.

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  • February 19, 2019 at 1:50 am
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    they are quite stupid. Manufacturers shouldn't push 4k laptops without providing the necessary power for the resolution

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  • March 8, 2019 at 3:04 pm
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    It's only shit if you cant handle the performance impact. Which is the case in this video. If you have a high end gpu 1070 and above it's perfect for laptop

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  • March 10, 2019 at 4:50 pm
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    are these problems solved by now?

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  • May 23, 2019 at 1:39 am
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    hi, im a student.i do a lot of reading books and pdf in laptop.im presently having 1368 resolution laptop. in this resolution, letters dont look crisp and sharp.for better reading experience of pdf and documents, which laptop will be best. i heard that letters become much smaller in 4k laptop

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  • May 27, 2019 at 11:40 pm
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    which one was 4k, the one on the left or right?

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  • July 5, 2019 at 8:19 am
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    use 1080p for one hour then try watching 4k you will see the difference !!!!

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  • July 10, 2019 at 7:23 am
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    You should just change the resolution, whenever you want, not the scaling.

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  • July 28, 2019 at 3:52 pm
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    Better faster refresh rate such as 240hz

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  • July 30, 2019 at 3:20 pm
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    OK here's a complicated question. I'm considering buying a 4k laptop Dell G7 not for the resolution but for color accuracy. Dell G7 comes with 2 display options. One 1080p and the other one is 4k. 1080p panel is way less color accurate. I need color accuracy for video editing. So if I set the resolution on the 4k laptop to 1080p will these problems you talk about in the video go away? Will I still be able to watch 4k videos in 4k resolution? What is the difference between pure 1080p and 1080p on 4k panel? Which one is better.

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  • July 31, 2019 at 10:27 pm
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    I am a game designer and Concept Artist. I consider to buy a 4K Laptop, too. Do you think in this case a 4K Laptop makes sense? For Concept Art and 3 d modeling and texturing? Thanks for your answer in Advance.

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  • August 1, 2019 at 11:18 am
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    but can i still edit 4k video shot from iphone to 1080 laptop? is it possible?

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  • August 16, 2019 at 4:42 am
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    should i get a 4K laptop or shoud i get one with 144hz or 240hz

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  • August 22, 2019 at 8:28 am
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    you should have millions subs

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  • October 3, 2019 at 4:38 pm
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    Going to connect it to 4k monitor at home, sometimes take it outside….

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  • October 16, 2019 at 12:18 am
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    Need more real estate? Put there external monitors. Job done. I was step close to buy P53 with 4K and change my mind to spend additional $250. Most of the time you'll use windows scale feature anyway.

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  • November 9, 2019 at 6:16 am
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    Hi Jarrod am torn between Asus g752vs 1070 gpu 4k display vs msi GTVR titan pro 1080gpu & display is 1080p 120hz. Which one will I buy? They selling it to me with same price $1200.

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  • November 21, 2019 at 9:32 am
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    4k laptop are great for text, so if you are a programmer its enjoyable for that crispy text. Windows scaling is an issue but once you set scaling properties on the programs you use regularly it isn't an issue. You wont be gaming at native resolution but 4k panels tends to have slightly better color accuracy. So 1080 gaming will have better colors. I use a Dell 7559 with a 960m and casually game, if you want high refresh rates then dont consider a 4k panel

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  • November 21, 2019 at 5:45 pm
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    Thanks Jarrod going through this right now and thinking the 1080P is perfect for what I need to do.

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  • November 22, 2019 at 8:01 am
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    Thanks this helps me a lot, so now how about a laptop with 2k resolution I think it would be better choose.

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