The MSI GT76 Titan is a thick machine with
desktop level hardware inside, but serious levels of power equal serious levels of heat,
so what sort of temperatures are we looking at with this desktop replacement? In this
testing I’ll take a detailed look at thermals and see how much we can improve performance
with some simple changes. For the specs there’s an 8 core 16 thread
overclockable desktop i9-9900K CPU, 200w Nvidia RTX 2080 graphics, definitely no Max-Q here,
and 32gb of memory in dual channel. You can find other configurations and updated prices
linked in the description. On the bottom we’ve got a huge mesh area
which should help with air intake. Air is exhausted out of the vents along the back,
as well as from the rear left and right corners. There are 11 heatpipes and 4 fans in total
for cooling, and it appears that the cooling for the CPU and GPU are separate. Two of the
fans are in the traditional spots, while the other two are below the screen or above the
keyboard underneath these vents, as you can see here from this video I took at Computex
in June. MSI are also using CNC polished copper blocks, the smoother surface should help improve
contact between the dies and the cooling. As you can probably imagine, these specs need
some serious power, and that’s why there are two 230 watt power bricks needed to power
it. The MSI Dragon Center software allows us to
swap between four modes, which from lowest to highest are ECO, Comfort, Sport and Turbo.
In Turbo mode we’re also given the option to easily overclock the CPU and GPU, up to
5GHz on the CPU, and +150MHz on the GPU core and +250MHz on the GPU memory. We can of course
tweak these further with third party tools though. In terms of fan speed I’ve tested
either with the default automatic speed, or with coolerboost enabled which basically sets
the fan speed to maximum for best cooling. Thermal testing was completed in an ambient
room temperature of 21 degrees Celsius, so expect different results in different environments. At idle the CPU was fine and the GPU was a
fair bit warmer comparatively. The rest of the results are from combined
CPU and GPU workloads, and are meant to represent worst case scenarios as I ran them for extended
periods of time. The gaming results towards the upper half
of the graph were tested by playing Watch Dogs 2, as I find it to use a good combination
of processor and graphics. The stress test results shown on the lower half of the graph
are from running the Aida64 CPU stress test with only the stress CPU option checked, and
the Heaven GPU benchmark at max settings at the same time to fully load the system. In ECO and Comfort modes, whether gaming or
under stress test, the GPU was thermal throttling at around 91 degrees Celsius. This is expected,
as these modes are designed for quieter operation so the trade off is extra heat. The main limitation
for the CPU in the multicore stress test was thermals, we can see it was throttling at
97 degrees Celsius in most of these tests. The GPU gradually lowers in temperature as
each mode increases the fan speed. The gaming results on the other hand aren’t bad at
all, in sport or turbo mode they’re within reason given the specs. These are the clock speeds for the same tests
just shown. CPU performance was the lowest in ECO mode as this caps the power limit of
the CPU to 55 watts, but it’s worth calling out that these speeds even in this worst performance
mode are better than most 6 core i7-9750H laptops I test. With comfort mode the CPU
clock speed rises, however the GPU speeds stay the same, if you recall in the last graph
it was still thermal throttling in comfort mode. The GPU speeds rise up in sport mode
as this increases the fan speed, likewise CPU performance increases for the same reason,
more fan speed helps reduce the thermal limitations. Turbo mode improved upon this a little more,
and then there were some extra CPU improvements with undervolting and adding a cooling pad
as these also help address thermal throttling. The GPU speed is the highest in these two
modes as I’ve also got the GPU overclocks enabled through Dragon Center. In this particular
game we’re also hitting MSI’s 5GHz claim after some basic tweaks, the cooling pad wasn’t
needed either though it helps, however this will of course vary by game. These are the average TDP values during these
same tests. We can see the RTX 2080 was approaching its 200 watt limit in turbo mode when under
stress test, this particular game isn’t heavy enough on the GPU to demand more than
160 watts I guess. Anyway these are pretty crazy results, on average with the GPU sitting
at 195 watts we’ve also got the CPU around the 120 mark, so that explains the temperatures. Here are the CPU clock speeds while under
a CPU only stress test, basically I was only able to hit the 5GHz overclock speed with
my undervolt applied, at least in this workload. The limitation was thermals, even in a CPU
only stress test like this the 97 degree limit was still being reached and these tests were
done with coolerboost enabled too, so maximum fan speed. To run at these speeds though we’re
seeing over 120 watts being reported, so kind of understandable. To demonstrate how this translates into performance
I’ve got some Cinebench CPU benchmarks from the different available modes. It’s worth
considering an i7-9750H best case scores around 3000 points in multicore, so we’re getting
a nice boost from both higher clock speeds and those two additional cores. Despite thermals
being the limitation in this specific workload, the cooling pad and undervolt hardly made
much extra improvement. Just for comparison, here’s how the best
results compare against some other 8 core machines that I’ve recently tested. I’ve also tested Shadow of the Tomb Raider
with the game’s built in benchmark tool just to show average frame rates from each
mode. The results were interesting, even in the lowest ECO mode we’re still getting
exceptional performance from a laptop, and this was while the fans were on the quieter
side, as you’ll hear shortly. If you want to see more gaming benchmarks
from the Titan, check the card in the top right where I’ve tested 12 games at 1080p
and 4K resolutions. As for the external temperatures where you’ll
actually be putting your hands, at idle in eco mode the keyboard was around 30 degrees
Celsius, pretty normal stuff. With the combined CPU and GPU stress tests running and still
in eco mode it’s now around 40 degrees, but as you’ll hear soon the fan is hardly
going. Moving up to comfort mode it’s about the same, no major changes. Sport mode increases
the fan speed, so although we’re now getting higher performance the external temperatures
are a bit better. Again in turbo despite now delivering higher levels of performance it’s
even cooler due to the faster fans. Here’s what it looks like playing an actual game
for an hour with the same turbo mode and fans on auto, again no issues at all. Here’s how the fans sound with these different
modes in these tests. At idle in the lowest eco mode the fans were
still audible, though my noise floor is between 34 and 35 so it’s still quiet. In the stress
tests with eco it’s still on the quieter side, and comfort mode was basically the same,
which is honestly quite impressive when you consider that you can still play games with
well above average levels of performance. Quieter operation with good performance is
a real possibility, at the expense of thermals of course. Sport mode rises the fans up quite
a bit, it’s about 11 decibels higher now. In turbo mode with the fan on auto it’s
quite loud, then with the fan at max speed in coolerboost it’s very loud, you’ll
definitely want headphones for that. The results from the Titan are quite impressive
when you consider that it was possible to hit 5GHz on average sustained over 8 cores,
at least in these workloads. Yes it does run hot if you stress it hard in turbo mode, and
thermals were the main limitation even once undervolted and with a cooling pad in use,
but honestly that’s always going to be expected when you stick a 9900K in a laptop – the fact
is the performance is still there despite this, and while actually playing games the
thermals seemed reasonable. The RTX 2080 also runs up to 200 watts, which
is fairly crazy. If you saw my gaming benchmark video it’s no surprise that it’s offering
serious levels of performance. I was a bit surprised that adding a cooling
pad didn’t help too much with the thermal throttling, given the amount of mesh on the
base of the machine. In addition to heat the downsides are of course the loud fan noise
when in turbo mode or with coolerboost enabled. With some decent fan speed though the keyboard
deck doesn’t get hot at all, so it’s quite comfortable to use, and you do have the option
of using it with quieter fans. These differences in performance shown aren’t
hard and fast rules, there are different factors which will vary results, primarily the temperature
of the room you’re running in, application of thermal paste, and even the specific hardware
which comes down to the silicon lottery. You may not be able to undervolt or overclock
your hardware the same as me, it depends on the chip and its specific power requirements,
so don’t just blindly copy my settings and do some testing to find out where your stable
point is for best results. It may be possible to improve temperatures
by swapping the thermal paste, considering thermals on the CPU are preventing us pushing
further liquid metal could definitely help. Unfortunately, this isn’t something I’m
able to test in a borrowed review unit, otherwise the next reviewer will unknowingly report
non stock results. Raising fan speed, using a cooling pad or
undervolting are much easier for most people to do anyway, and as we’ve seen these tweaks
did help improve performance and temperatures with the Titan. Let me know what you thought about the thermals
from the MSI GT76 Titan down in the comments, and if you’re new to the channel you’ll
definitely want to get subscribed for the upcoming full review to see everything this
machine has to offer.

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76 thoughts on “MSI GT76 Titan Thermals – 9900K + RTX 2080 Too Hot?

  • November 13, 2019 at 11:01 am
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    First

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:03 am
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    Great Video Jarrod!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    love your vids jarrod u gave me the assurance i needed to buy my first gaming laptop

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:05 am
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    you should add red dead redemption2 gaming benchmark.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:05 am
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    В принципе, 76 серия неудачной вышла. И 75. А вот 72 остается топ по продуманности, дизайну и охлаждению. Сдает только производительность!
    Privet from Mother Russia.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:07 am
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    Omg the Max fan speeds literally turns the laptop into a blow dryer

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:09 am
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    i'm happy because you are uploading everyday.Good job man!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:11 am
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    Jarrod, do you mind asking how you conduct your tests? What softwares do u use to measure all TDP, clock speeds and temps? thanks!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:12 am
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    Jarrod, do you mind asking how you conduct your tests? What softwares do u use to measure all TDP, clock speeds and temps? thanks!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:12 am
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    i hate laptops…

    but i watch anyway…

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:13 am
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    But the battery life?

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:17 am
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    Jarrod, will you be able to do a video on the GT76 Titan VS the Alienware Area 51m?

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:19 am
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    4ghz in silent mode 🤯

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:23 am
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    Lol. Laptops only for the rich…..LMAO!

    Good video, though.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:23 am
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    Jet Engine Noise

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:24 am
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    I haven’t seen this laptop and my ears are ringing already. 😛

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:35 am
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    And i have intel hd 🔥

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:37 am
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    Hope you make a review and benchmark on MSI P75 9SF

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:41 am
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    Hi Jarrod! If you don't mind me for asking you to make laptop recommendation videos by their specs and values. Anyway best and details review as always!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:41 am
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    any luck to see a video of the predator triton 300 anytime soon ? love your videos btw 😀

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:48 am
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    need an AMD version, put shame to this thing

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:59 am
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    You are better than unbox therapy

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:06 pm
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    What if go all out and remove the battery from the laptop, and power it via external plug or external battery which you can also plug it in

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:06 pm
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    what cooling pad do you use Jarrod i have a cheap one and it doesn't do much for my cooling on a hp omen 17

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:09 pm
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    Next gen CPUs and GPUs are coming soon, with changing sockets as well, not sure if it's the right time to get a MSI laptop now, even Alienware can't guarantee the right parts for upgrades.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:15 pm
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    Imagine how well the CPU will perform with delid+LM…

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:17 pm
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    i like that is will stay cool if you have the fans really high so the temps on the GT76 are really impressive

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:24 pm
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    THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE UNIT

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:26 pm
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    When u gonna review aorus 17

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:30 pm
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    Finally the 2019 flagship laptop from msi

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:38 pm
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    Hi Jarrod's , can you please look for clevo model NB50TH using the i3 9100 + gtx 1050 3gb ?

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:01 pm
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    Just Acer Predator Helios 700 left and you can make comparison between alienware 51m area, titan g76 and helios 700, colling system comparison also and games

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:01 pm
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    Dont u think Jarrod this laptop the laptop is a bit boxy.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:18 pm
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    They copied the sound of my Dyson v8!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:21 pm
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    Gaming laptop which is hard to clean from dust not worth to buy.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:31 pm
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    your review video is amazing!!Love to watch it! But may i ask you why you only undervolt 0.06v for the i9, is that the threshold for it?

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:41 pm
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    My dream laptop, then my wallet laughs at me

    I think I would prefer a 9700k or give a 9750 100w instead of the usual 50-70w

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:41 pm
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    can you compare this laptop between mothership, triton 900 and helios 700 ?
    I know I even can't afford this things XD

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:44 pm
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    It is just McLean of laptops………😍

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:45 pm
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    A: so, how many fans do you want to put in?
    B: yes, yes, YES!!!!!!
    C: let's add/pair it with cooling pad with 2 or more fans for extra party 😤
    B: sure why not XD

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:56 pm
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    Cpu insists on staying at 97 degrees under stress test mode, eventhough 0.06 UV and cooling pad which is hell.

    Cooling is still the biggest problem which manufacturers are hopeless and they could not be doing too much about it, and that fact makes buying gaming laptops pointless if you are not portable. Just get a desktop rig.

    Btw Jarrod is great at driving us to the right way as always!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:57 pm
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    Can u review MSI GL 65 ???
    And u think 512 ssd only in gaming laptop is enough anyway for normal gaming??

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  • November 13, 2019 at 2:28 pm
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    I am looking for a gaming laptop for Christmas. Right now i wanna get the helios 300 from us amazon (1660ti 9750h) But could you make a video before Christmas about the top gaming laptops for around 1000-1300$?? I would not be the only one that would apreciate that 🙂 Also i'd like to ask, if you would trust amazon in this čase of shipping From amazon us to europe, it says that this item does ship to Czech republic, i Just wanna know what your experience with amazon is in generál, ive never ordered anytging from amazon so i am a bit worried…

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  • November 13, 2019 at 2:36 pm
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    A bit disappointed the cooling pad didn't help much. Then again those numbers are pretty darn impressive considering this thing wasn't repasted. Sooooo actually if I was in the market for a behemoth like this, then this would be my top choice for good price and performance over the area 51m.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 2:58 pm
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    What is the best thick laptop right now? Someone tell me the list so I do my research from that.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 3:01 pm
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    That is actually thicccccck.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 3:05 pm
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    Still too hard to tame the beast 9900k. They need to redesign it like Asus did with mother-ship. Cine-bench score was almost identical as area 51…m impressed with Asus's engineering and r&d.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 3:07 pm
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    Jarod bhai, the inside of the laptop is so fascinating. I didn't know about the extra two fans hidden underneath the surface. 😍 MSI has taken thermal management very seriously.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 3:17 pm
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    Holy shit…No NVIDIA Optimius…this battery can't even stay 1 hour

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  • November 13, 2019 at 3:18 pm
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    Heyo, can you do a tutorial video to optimise the laptop? And what are the best practice to follow once we receive a new laptop?

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  • November 13, 2019 at 3:35 pm
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    this laptop is stupid

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  • November 13, 2019 at 3:43 pm
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    What is that base you use on the laptop?

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  • November 13, 2019 at 4:00 pm
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    This laptop does not care what you think about it. I am afraid of it! Lol

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  • November 13, 2019 at 4:11 pm
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    You can greatly improve the thermals on the 9900K, if you put it on the Z390 DARK with a waterblock! LOL! That poor desktop CPU, being malnourished, and forced to endure extreme temperatures stuffed inside a laptop!
    I do have to give credit to MSI. It's a pretty damn good cooling solution for what it has to deal with.

    Great work, Jarrod. o7

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  • November 13, 2019 at 5:08 pm
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    THICC ASS

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  • November 13, 2019 at 5:09 pm
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    Feels like a car with all those modes !!!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 5:13 pm
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    Cooling pad with fans does wonders

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  • November 13, 2019 at 5:42 pm
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    can you review the 16 inch mac book pro plz

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  • November 13, 2019 at 5:57 pm
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    My impressions:

    1. Holy F that thing is loud. 65dB is insane on a laptop, and it appears you actually need to run the fans full bore to get performance out of it.
    2. That top right corner gets really hot.
    3. A cooling pad might not help with performance, but in my experience helps mitigate heat soaking over long gamins sesions.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 6:44 pm
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    CUK MSI GT76 Titan DT Extreme Gamer Notebook (Intel i9-9900K, 64GB RAM, 2x1TB NVMe RAID + 2TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB, 17.3" FHD 240Hz 3ms IPS-Level, Windows 10 Pro) Gaming Laptop 💻

    For 3499,- that’s cheap for a laptop with 2x1tb nvme ssd and 64gb of ram 🐏 i tought it would have cost 3999,- at least seeing this video and followed the link

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  • November 13, 2019 at 7:10 pm
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    Can you do benchmarks with the 2070 and 9700k one?

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  • November 13, 2019 at 7:56 pm
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    Hi,

    What cooling pad are you using?

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  • November 13, 2019 at 8:53 pm
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    Can you review the 17 inch 2070 helios 300 ? I see it for sale at a good price

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  • November 13, 2019 at 9:31 pm
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    omg so much place for water cooling 😀 😀

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:35 pm
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    I need a MSI GT76 titan with one power brick, an i5-9400f, a full 150 W RTX 2060 and 16GB of ram.. Now that would be PERFECT

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:40 pm
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    It looks like a ROG laptop well done 😂😂😂

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  • November 14, 2019 at 12:09 am
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    Can you do Lenovo legion y540 be ASUS rog. Please respond

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  • November 14, 2019 at 2:53 am
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    What's the point of getting this laptop when the 2 required power bricks are the size of another laptop? Who is this thing for?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 2:55 am
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    Jarrod what is the price of MSI gf63 model i7 9th generation 128 ssd 1tb hdd 1050 ti graphics card in your country ??? Very informative and quality videos keep up the good work!!!

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  • November 14, 2019 at 4:44 am
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    Hello Jarrod'sTech, I'm a big fan of yours from Brazil! I will buy a notebook in the future and would like to know your opinion which would be the best to choose !! In a very simple way that does not take your time !!! Which notebook do you think is better: Dell g5 15 or Lenovo Legion y540

    Settings:

    i7-9th / 16gb / 1TB + 128Gb / RTX2060 / 15 '' Screen

    I heard reports of Dell overheating, so the doubt.

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  • November 14, 2019 at 8:47 am
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    nice review and performance but it shouldnt be called a laptop 😂😂. the mag 15 is what a laptop should be.

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  • November 14, 2019 at 9:11 am
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    Mmm
    We build THIS, becouse we can?..

    Jarrod, waiting your review for razer 13 with 10th gen+1650 =)
    (great smallest universal laptop, but with one "defect" – he no have 144gz option)

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  • November 14, 2019 at 12:47 pm
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    Are you going to do a review on 🍎 MacBook Pro 16 inch?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 2:38 pm
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    Can you link me the laptop cooler pad you're using in this video? thanks

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:12 pm
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    Can you do 1440p:)?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 8:39 pm
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    Imagine buying the 60hz version for this 😂😂😂

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