So today was a crazy day in the Apple world! MacBook Pro 16 was announced tons of hands
on and first impression videos have hit YouTube. But I started noticing a trend on Twitter. A lot of my colleagues and tech enthusiasts
in general started posting screenshots of the MacBook Pro 16 they ordered And in those
screenshots were I9 variants of the MacBook Pro. Apple offers three different SKUs of the MacBook
Pro, you have the I7 with a six-core processor then there’s the I9 with 8 cores but with
two different speed variants. There’s the 2.3 gigahertz the 4.8 boost which
is the entry level I9 or you can spend $240 extra Canadian dollars and get 2.4 gigahertz
base with a 5 gigahertz boost. The problem is that a lot of these people
were ordering the more expensive 5 gigahertz boost and the unfortunate part is they’re
never going to see the speed advantages from it because these laptops are not capable of
boosting that high for a very long time. Let me give you an example. This is a 2018 MacBook Pro, this also has
an i9 and right now as you can see here, the core clock speed is at 1.6 gigahertz. It’s not doing much so there’s no need for
the processor to ramp up so it’s trying to keep this laptop as quiet and cool as possible. CPU temps around 50 degrees, so everything
seems nice and normal. Now when I run an application that utilizes
all cores like Adobe Premiere, Final Cut or in this case Blender all of a sudden, you’re
gonna see it boost up to its full potential which is around 4.8 and then look how fast
it drops down. It dropped down literally within seconds. Right now the frequency is at 3.1 gigahertz,
which is not even close to the five gigahertz or four point eight gigahertz boost clock
that these macbooks come with. The most you’re going to get when the CPU
is a hundred percent utilized is around 2.8 to 3.2 gigahertz. Anything more than that is gonna cause this
laptop to get way too hot. You can see right now the package temperature
of the CPU is at a hundred degrees Celsius. Now granted the MacBook Pro 16 is supposed
to have better cooling so you should expect a little bit better of performance. The point I’m trying to make is and this goes
for not just the MacBook Pro but any laptop with a dedicated GPU and an H series processor
in a form factor that’s this thin or close to being thin, you’ll never see the true advantages
of those boost clocks. It’s impossible for these laptops to take
advantage of that speed for more than a few seconds. I think for most people out there if you want
the i9, it’s fantastic you’re getting two more cores. So if you’re doing multi-threaded applications,
those two cores will make a big difference. But if you think that extra 200 megahertz
you get from the more expensive models gonna make any difference at all. Unfortunately, it’s not. Save that money put it towards more storage
or even a more beefier GPU. There’s three different GPU options and that
might be more advantageous than a processor that has higher clock speeds that you’ll never
be able to take advantage of. Anyways think of this as a public service
announcement. I ordered a MacBook Pro 16 myself once I get
it in the studio I’ll be doing a hands-on and full review. So if you have any questions for it, let me
know in the comments down below. Like the video if you liked it, subscribe
if you haven’t already and I’ll see you guys in the next video!

MacBook Pro 16″ // Don’t Buy the Wrong MacBook!

100 thoughts on “MacBook Pro 16″ // Don’t Buy the Wrong MacBook!

  • November 13, 2019 at 8:46 pm
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    MacBook Pro 16 is out. Improvements made where it counts but the i9 is the one you need to be careful of. Hopefully this helps you choose the right one! Hit me up on discord if you have any questions. discord.gg/mattmoniz

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:48 pm
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    Are you gonna keep both or give one to family/friend? Or simply hold onto the old one for comparison purposes.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:54 pm
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    they made it thicker, they changed the fans,they reworked the internals for better air thermals. and to top it all off the reviews and benchmarks aren't available and you personally havent touched the new one. youre comparing an old thermal throttled version vs a new product that a company has literally released a new product to deal with those issues. PSA should be you needed a video out today and decided to make one with out even trying to act like you looked at the website? should at least try.. like apple or not this wasn't even informative it was kinda inaccurate

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:55 pm
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    Don't celebrate just yet. How many years of garbage keyboards did we have to endure? Now hundreds of 2017 MacBooks are developing a yellowish discoloration at the lower edges of their screens, but Apple is disavowing that this is just another engineering blunder and insisting owners pay for it! Apple is no longer into support really. Just look at the quality of their geniuses who don't know even a fraction of what enthusiasts knew 10-15 years earlier. Apple just wants to make disposable electronics so they can keep sales numbers up! Admit to nothing regarding bad engineering until the customer furor rises to the point where it endangers future sales. Only then do you admit to garbage quality and act responsibly. Don't expect this 16" machine to really be different!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:55 pm
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    Don't celebrate just yet. How many years of garbage keyboards did we have to endure? Now hundreds of 2017 MacBooks are developing a yellowish discoloration at the lower edges of their screens, but Apple is disavowing that this is just another engineering blunder and insisting owners pay for it! Apple is no longer into support really. Just look at the quality of their geniuses who don't know even a fraction of what enthusiasts knew 10-15 years earlier. Apple just wants to make disposable electronics so they can keep sales numbers up! Admit to nothing regarding bad engineering until the customer furor rises to the point where it endangers future sales. Only then do you admit to garbage quality and act responsibly. Don't expect this 16" machine to really be different!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:55 pm
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    Don't celebrate just yet. How many years of garbage keyboards did we have to endure? Now hundreds of 2017 MacBooks are developing a yellowish discoloration at the lower edges of their screens, but Apple is disavowing that this is just another engineering blunder and insisting owners pay for it! Apple is no longer into support really. Just look at the quality of their geniuses who don't know even a fraction of what enthusiasts knew 10-15 years earlier. Apple just wants to make disposable electronics so they can keep sales numbers up! Admit to nothing regarding bad engineering until the customer furor rises to the point where it endangers future sales. Only then do you admit to garbage quality and act responsibly. Don't expect this 16" machine to really be different!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 11:55 pm
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    Don't celebrate just yet. How many years of garbage keyboards did we have to endure? Now hundreds of 2017 MacBooks are developing a yellowish discoloration at the lower edges of their screens, but Apple is disavowing that this is just another engineering blunder and insisting owners pay for it! Apple is no longer into support really. Just look at the quality of their geniuses who don't know even a fraction of what enthusiasts knew 10-15 years earlier. Apple just wants to make disposable electronics so they can keep sales numbers up! Admit to nothing regarding bad engineering until the customer furor rises to the point where it endangers future sales. Only then do you admit to garbage quality and act responsibly. Don't expect this 16" machine to really be different!

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  • November 14, 2019 at 12:09 am
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    what do u think, is it possible to install mac os mojave on the 16inch? because i use plugins in logic, they only run on 32 bit… catalina doesn‘t support 32 bit, only 64…

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  • November 14, 2019 at 12:12 am
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    What variant of the 16' mac should I buy .I'm starting my it degree next year will the base variant will be enough

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  • November 14, 2019 at 12:21 am
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    What are the specs that your ordered?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 12:21 am
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    Matthew, can you buy one for me, I'm so freaking broke right now. 😢😢😢😢

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  • November 14, 2019 at 12:28 am
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    Sorry might be a weird spin but: 512gb with external drives, 64gb and 2.4Ghz VS. 1 TB, 32GB 2.3Ghz for running several virtuals, heavy editing

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  • November 14, 2019 at 1:02 am
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    Seeing this just made me hate how scummy Apple's marketing is. What's the point of mentioning that the more expensive model can boost up to 5.0ghz if the device can't even maintain it for even a second. At least the thermals would be better as it is bigger, but it will never reach its full potential. For me, I will say, in the words of mrwhosetheboss "The base model is almost always the better value".

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  • November 14, 2019 at 1:22 am
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    I agree with that. The memory and the GPU is the key.

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  • November 14, 2019 at 1:52 am
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    Do you expect a 13” replacement? How soon? I’m so jealous!!

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  • November 14, 2019 at 2:11 am
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    Great video matt ❤

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  • November 14, 2019 at 2:22 am
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    Apple says the cooling is way better, so it should be worth the upgrade.

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  • November 14, 2019 at 3:30 am
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    I will wait for your review before ordering. Did they give a ship date?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 3:58 am
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    Yes it’s safe to assume what you’re saying but it’s still not wise to speak so soon, especially since nobody has publicly put it through it’s paces yet.

    It’s a little unprofessional in my opinion, even though you are more than likely correct you still shouldn’t have posted a video like this so soon.

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  • November 14, 2019 at 4:01 am
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    I thought the same when i looked on their website. For me i9 (4.7ghz boost), 64gb ram ( maxed out cuz its soldered), 2tb ssd, Radeon 8gb graphics seems to be the sweet spot.

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  • November 14, 2019 at 5:07 am
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    Great work 😍

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  • November 14, 2019 at 5:39 am
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    Does this mean anything for the 13" line, I'm looking to buy the baseline, should I hold off?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 5:46 am
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    Thank you, i changed my order due to this video!

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:06 am
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    Thanks for the informative video Matthew. 👍👍👍

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:08 am
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    Excellent info thanks! How much faster will the 5500M be to the 5300M ?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:25 am
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    Hello Matthew You are right 👍

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:30 am
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    Please can you make video macbook Air 2019

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:30 am
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    Every Channel : Macbook Pro 16" Bla Bla Bla 🦴
    Matthew : just gave you the real information 🧠

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:36 am
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    I misunderstood 'macbook pro 16' as 'macbook pro 2016', not 'macbook pro 16 inch' :-p

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:47 am
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    Which version did u buy?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:53 am
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    Don’t you think that a way better cooling might take advantage of this extra clock speed? Or at least, after decrease of the start, you’ll have a higher clock speed compared to the model with a smaller clock speed

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  • November 14, 2019 at 7:14 am
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    What specs did you get

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  • November 14, 2019 at 7:43 am
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    What upgrade/s if needed from the 2799 base model would you recommend for a programmer? RAM > GPU > Storage > Processor? Thanks great video

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  • November 14, 2019 at 8:30 am
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    So .don't rush for boost speed 😊

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  • November 14, 2019 at 8:40 am
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    which one did you order ?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 9:08 am
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    Good one, WAY to many "reviewers" out there jus got it and say this and that..:)
    And on the Hear/coolingpart…we all know MacBook can't handle 100% of i9 for long..
    Like you say better invest that on Ram or Graphics…
    With luck I get mine soon, and will be fun test the keyboard and how they did on the Heat/cooling part this time around. We all know Apple talk numbers..but IRL that is for sure not the same thing tho..:)

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  • November 14, 2019 at 10:32 am
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    Apple customers are gonna buy it anyway

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  • November 14, 2019 at 10:50 am
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    Hi Matthew! Is the base model i7 $2400 enough for a graphic designer? Or do i need to upgrade the ram or gpu?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 12:06 pm
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    That’s literally the point of boost and how it works. And your arguement is thrown off by the point it has 30% larger fans and it’s a thicker and larger footprint. It does make an actual difference real world than you benchmark test.

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  • November 14, 2019 at 12:27 pm
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    Which is better investment i9 1Tb 16 gb or i7 32gb 512gb

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  • November 14, 2019 at 2:38 pm
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    Don’t buy a MacBook, period

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  • November 14, 2019 at 2:56 pm
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    Misleading title.

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  • November 14, 2019 at 3:50 pm
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    Hey how about i7 ?? Is it right to get???

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  • November 14, 2019 at 3:51 pm
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    Great point!

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  • November 14, 2019 at 3:53 pm
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    Wow you just put sh** into serious perspective for me. Thank You – Also which build did you go with?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 3:56 pm
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    would the new thermal setup not solve this problem?

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  • November 14, 2019 at 4:22 pm
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    You are comparing a 2018 model, the 2019 model has a much larger heatpipe and fan assembly. This is not an apples to apples comparison. Sorry for the pun! 😛

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  • November 14, 2019 at 6:30 pm
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    You're probably right regarding the top speed of 5.0Ghz not lasting for a long time, however what about x8 cores times the delta normal clock speed? It's effectively extra 800Hz (2.4-2.3)x8

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  • November 14, 2019 at 7:33 pm
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    Should i pay more for Macbook Pro 16 with i9, or i7 is fine? (For Logic x pro)

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  • November 14, 2019 at 9:29 pm
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    Thanks I go with the i7 better thermals longer durability

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  • November 14, 2019 at 9:47 pm
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    Luckily, I keep my MacBook pro in the freezer!

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  • November 14, 2019 at 11:15 pm
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    This video is premature. The cooling system has been redesigned, and 2 larger fans have been included. We don't know anything about the thermal performance yet, so using an older model to base your video on is fake news. The graphics card is also built on a 7nm process which draws less power, and thus, creates less heat, to further invalidate your point about the added heat of the gpu. Thumbs down for this one mate.

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  • November 15, 2019 at 1:29 am
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    You think the Mac book pro 13 still worth it or should I wait until they update it

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  • November 15, 2019 at 5:12 am
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    The 16 claims to have much better thermal performance, but I agree, don't buy the higher clocked CPU option.

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  • November 15, 2019 at 7:35 am
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    So to summarize pc is better

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  • November 15, 2019 at 8:45 am
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    Other reviewers and apple said fan get biger and cooling much better , maybe new mac can boost much more, pelase review 16ich macbook with i9 5ghz then we decided

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  • November 15, 2019 at 9:22 am
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    The body is thicker. I'd wait for reviews from Linus etc before signing the 5ghz off completely

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  • November 15, 2019 at 10:14 am
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    I figured the i9 stuff last year when the 8950hk starts overheating in these thin and light notebooks. I9 is better suited for chunky workstations or gaming laptops such as Dell Precision 7740 or Asus ROG G703.

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  • November 15, 2019 at 11:47 am
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    people screenshot ordering new apple stuff, wow what a thing to showoff. People like to showoff to fitin the standards. Dam whats going on

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  • November 15, 2019 at 1:05 pm
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    What tool are you using to see the temperature & clock speed?

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  • November 15, 2019 at 3:05 pm
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    thank you so much for making this a 3min video instead of 10 like every video on YouTube rn

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  • November 15, 2019 at 4:34 pm
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    the 16 inch mac Specifications is the strongest on the market pro upgraded baby well done apple 🔥

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  • November 15, 2019 at 5:16 pm
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    Great Review bro, this was my thoughts exactly… I think i'll wait till June 2020 by then they should have found and fixed any issues with the laptop

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  • November 15, 2019 at 6:20 pm
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    If I am looking at the MBP 16 mainly for video editing do I need to go beyond the basic entry offering on GPU or Processor? I am thinking if I upgrade anything maybe just more storage to 1TB.

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  • November 15, 2019 at 6:53 pm
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    I love your thumbnails man! You gotta teach me how to make thumbnails like that haha!

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  • November 15, 2019 at 7:04 pm
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    I’m a college student now and majoring in mechanical/aerospace engineering. I’ve been needing a new MBP but I’m not quite sure what specs I need on it yet. Any recommendations?

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  • November 15, 2019 at 7:20 pm
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    For base 2399 model, is 5500m 4gb 100$ better than 5300M? Worth its price?

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  • November 15, 2019 at 7:24 pm
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    Apple : these kind of videos holding sales of the 16inch
    Me : still saving up for the 13inch base model.

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  • November 15, 2019 at 9:04 pm
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    Why they say that they cannot do a retina scale on the 16 in MacBook Pro

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  • November 15, 2019 at 9:37 pm
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    It is the wrong macbook if it has an apple on it. Haha you deserve all the shit Apple gives you if you buy their products.

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  • November 15, 2019 at 9:39 pm
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    Thank you

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  • November 15, 2019 at 9:51 pm
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    If they made a 14 inch MacBook Pro with the same kind of upgrades I would buy it in a second.

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  • November 16, 2019 at 12:38 am
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    What are your thoughts on apparent undervolting on the 2.3 and early Geekbench scores? Would be a bit frustrating… https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-mbp-geekbench-scores-so-far-show-big-differences.2211524/..

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  • November 16, 2019 at 3:02 am
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    https://barefeats.com/rmbp-2019-two-best-compared-part-2.html

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  • November 16, 2019 at 3:26 am
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    Thank you!! I just subbed

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  • November 16, 2019 at 4:27 am
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    Yeah “crazy world”, an old keyboard is back. Ground breaking stuff.

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  • November 16, 2019 at 11:37 am
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    Thanks for the "public service announcement". 😀

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  • November 16, 2019 at 11:51 am
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    makes it a big difference between the 5500 4gb and 8 gb??

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  • November 16, 2019 at 12:32 pm
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    But, can it run Minecraft?

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  • November 16, 2019 at 12:42 pm
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    Why apple ignoring ice lake cpu in 2019 with macbook pro

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  • November 16, 2019 at 2:26 pm
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    Giga-hurt

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  • November 16, 2019 at 3:17 pm
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    No SD Card reader 🙁 – Front Camera still 720p 30fps 🙁 – No Touch screen or OLED display 🙁 – NO Wi-Fi 6 🙁 – T2 with the same multiple crashes in the past :(, where is the T3? – So in Conclusion let's wait for the 2020 Model. just saying…

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  • November 16, 2019 at 3:25 pm
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    JUST TO BE CLEAR
    16 INCH VARIANT HAS THESE SPECIFICATION

    1. $2399.00 MACBOOK
    (a) i7 9th Gen 6 core (upto 4.5 GHz )
    (b) i9 9th Gen 8 core (upto 5.0 GHz)

    2. $2799.00 MACBOOK
    (a) i9 9th Gen 8 core ( upto 4.8 GHz)
    (b) i9 9th Gen 8 core ( upto 5.0 GHz)

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  • November 16, 2019 at 9:20 pm
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    Keyboard is better, but STILL SUCKS. So dumb to f this up this bad. It's really not that hard.

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  • November 17, 2019 at 1:46 am
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    can you make another short video on which is the best ram option to get? and explain why either the 16 32 and 64 options would be good and what kind of people would use those options

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  • November 17, 2019 at 9:14 am
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    What do people think is the most important upgrade option; RAM, GPU or storage? I want this laptop to be as 'future-proof' as possible. Thanks.

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  • November 17, 2019 at 9:16 am
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    Was there an i9 in 2018?

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  • November 17, 2019 at 11:11 am
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    You're probably not wrong, but everything we've seen so far shows the thermal throttling of the new 16" Macbook Pro is vastly superior to the thermal issues in the previous Macbook Pro models.

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  • November 17, 2019 at 1:12 pm
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    Man thats turbo boost, for a program like photoshop and stuff,is actually useful.

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  • November 17, 2019 at 1:57 pm
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    Hello,
    Is it going to do the same even with bootcamp/windows ?

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  • November 17, 2019 at 3:24 pm
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    First of all, is this your pokies or what… Second did you really sold kidney to buy new MacBook?

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  • November 17, 2019 at 4:05 pm
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    Explaint about fo GHZ

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  • November 17, 2019 at 5:10 pm
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    The mackbooks can't even maintain their all core turbo clocks let alone it's max turbo frequencies😂😂

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  • November 17, 2019 at 9:32 pm
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    You're forgetting that the cooling system has been improved so what you're saying here might be true for the older models but not for the new one

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  • November 17, 2019 at 11:51 pm
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    I just wonder for normal users gpu 4gb vram version is enough or pay extra 100bucks get the 8gb vram version

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  • November 18, 2019 at 4:53 am
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    Bout time people know what the true clock speed is instead of sales people asking us on their own free MacBook Pro 16

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  • November 18, 2019 at 6:58 am
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    I have Macbook Pro 15" 2018. Should I upgrade my macbook through trade-in? Will the upgrade be worth it?

    How about entry level i7 with 6 cores and 16gb and 1TB storage, what do you think when you claim that there is no advantage to upgrading clock speed?

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  • November 18, 2019 at 3:45 pm
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    Thank you for the video ! Much appreciated 🙌

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  • November 19, 2019 at 4:31 am
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    I edit on Final Cut, so I’m getting the best gpu, but do I get the i7 or the “entry level” i9?

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