– Hey guys, this is Austin. Is a $650 gaming laptop worth it? So this is the new HP Envy x360. Now while it might not
look like a gaming laptop, inside it is rocking the
brand new AMD Ryzen Mobile. If you’ve bought a laptop
in the last few years, more than likely it was powered by Intel. However, AMD has stepped up in
a big way with Ryzen Mobile. Not only does this have
a much more powerful CPU, but the graphics should be
good enough for actual gaming. So it is definitely a larger
laptop with a 15 inch display. But, as part of their x360
line, what we’re getting here is a fully convertible
design, which actually isn’t too thick either. Cover wise, it feels pretty nice. So we’re getting a slightly
sharp, angular design, which a lot of HP laptops have had these days. But considering the $650
price point, it looks and feels pretty premium. Open this guy up and we’re
going to see the full size keyboard, as well as
number row, as well as the Bang & Olufsen speakers. Something you won’t find,
however, are any stupid Intel stickers all over the laptop. Actually, there are no AMD
stickers at all, are there? For ports, there’s a pretty
decent selection, including HDMI, a USB 3, as well
as your headphone jack. And on the other side,
you’re going to be getting one more USB 3.0, a USB-C
that supports charging, as well as a full size SD card slot. HP doesn’t claim this is a
gaming PC, but with Ryzen 5 inside it should be capable
of some decent gaming. So not only are we getting
a Quad-Core Zen processor, but we’re also getting
eight Vega GPU cores. Now that’s not going to
be able to blow away some proper dedicated graphics,
but the idea is, is that for $650, especially
considering that this is a very battery focused,
sort of, lightweight laptop, it should give us decent
gaming performance. Ryzen has proven to be pretty
impressive on the desktop side, offering a lot of fast
cores at a reasonable price. Thankfully, that comes
across to Ryzen Mobile. So in Geekbench, while it’s
not quite on par with Intel’s latest 8th-gen, 15 watt
processors, it actually performs really well compared to
slightly older Core i5s. Definitely plenty of
performance for pretty much any kind of normal usage. Where things get really
interesting is with those Vega graphics. So it is a huge step up
over something like Intel Integrated Graphics, and
it’s even on par with some of the lower end
dedicated graphics options. Now this might not sound
that impressive, but consider that this is all in a 15 watt chip. It nearly matches Intel’s
latest and greatest on the processor side, and
completely destroys them on the graphics side. And again, this is from AMD. To put this to the test, we have CS:GO. Now here running at 1080p
medium, we’re actually getting pretty decent frame rates. So we’re averaging somewhere
between the high 40s to mid 50s. And that is definitely very playable. Obviously, ideally you’re
running in like 300,000 frames, but considering that
we’ve got a $650 laptop, I’m definitely not complaining. Next up, we have Rocket League. Now this is a game that is
pretty popular, and it’s also not that hard to run. And yet again, here we’re
running at 1080p, this time on quality settings. Now the frame rate’s actually
really impressive here. We’re just pretty much staying
above 60 frames per second at all times. Wow, that was terrible. So, in theory, we actually
can bump those settings up, all the way up to the high
quality if we wanted to. Move over to GTA, and
we’re actually getting pretty decent performance. So on normal settings, at
1080p, we’re getting between 30 to 40 frames per second. For less demanding areas
like this, we’re actually in the mid 40s or so. When you get a lot of
explosions, sometimes it dips around 30, but again, pretty playable. To really put this to
the test, we have Pubg. And well this, is not so great. So, low settings at 720p, we’re
barely getting like 27, 28 frames per second. I mean, this is a little
bit more of an open area, but even after we walk inside
this building we’re still barely touching 30. It’s kind of usable. It’s not the worst
experience I’ve ever tried. But, maybe not the best
Pubg machine in the world. Things aren’t all perfect
in normal use either. So when I was first setting
up this laptop, I had some weird driver issues,
where the screen would go really dim and I would
have no control over it, and sleep mode just
completely disappeared. Thankfully, a few Windows
updates fixed that. But still, not the best
out of box experience. Now it’s not a huge surprise
considering that this is one of the very first Ryzen
Mobile products to actually go on sale. So there might be a few
kinks to be worked out. I will say though, the AMD
x360 is nice piece of hardware. And of course, you do have
that fully flexible hinge. And while it is nicely
weighted, I don’t like how much wobble there is when
you actually touch it. Although again, this is
a very common complaint with pretty much any of these
sort of convertible designs. The keyboard also isn’t too bad. So not only do I like the
spacing and the layout with having the number row,
but also has a nice feel, and importantly, especially
considering the price, it is going to be backlit. With the screen issues
patched it’s a good panel. So at 15.6 inches, with
a 1080p resolution, it looks pretty good. And especially with this
kind of size and price point, I feel like 1080 is a
totally reasonable sweet spot for gaming, as well as productivity. Now the actual display itself. The color is nice, and the
contrast is pretty impressive, however, it just doesn’t get that bright. So when you’re looking
at it dead on, it’s okay. But that, combined with the fact that it’s really reflective, means
that if you get this guy even slightly off axis, it is
really hard to see anything. So like a lot of other HP
laptops recently, it does have Bang & Olufsen branded speakers,
and especially considering that it’s a pretty big
speaker row that’s directed straight at you. Not only does it sound pretty good, but it gets surprisingly loud. However, it’s not all great. So the trackpad is just kind of okay. Now I really wish it did have
Windows Precision drivers. As it is, the tracking is
okay, and it does support most of the major gestures,
but the tracking could be a lot better, and
especially the trackpad size feels a little bit small
for a laptop in 2018. There’s also Windows Hello
support for facial recognition, which is a nice feature, except
that for me, it only works when I get my face very,
very close to the laptop. The webcam isn’t much better. So it is at least 1080p,
but as you guys can see from this quality, Team
Crispy, this is definitely not. The biggest issue though,
is the hard drive. So while the rest of the
system is pretty well specced out with the Ryzen
5, dual channel eight gigs of memory, however, having
a mechanical hard drive in a laptop in 2018 just feels slow. It would be so nice if they
had actually configured this with an SSD. On one hand, Ryzen Mobile
is seriously impressive. Look back just a few months
ago, and Intel was selling 15 watt laptop processors
with lackluster graphics and only two cores. Yeah, they’ve stepped
it up to Quad-Core now, but you look at AMD, who
has come out of nowhere with an impressive
Quad-Core design, and some seriously powerful graphics. And again, this is from AMD. I know I keep saying that,
but it is really impressive what AMD has been able to
pull off, especially coming out of nowhere like this. Now sure, this is not going
to be a super high end gaming machine that’s
going to work for everyone, but it does have enough power to play some pretty decent games. On the other hand, the Envy
x360 is good, but not perfect. I feel like they got about 85% right. With a better trackpad,
a couple of tweaks, and especially a standard SSD,
I would like this thing a lot more. What gets me really excited
is that this has forced Intel Nvidia to price some
gaming laptops in this sort of $600 price range. So, if you guys wanna see
a video on one of those, definitely be sure to let me
know in the comments below, and I will catch you in the next one.

Is a $650 Gaming Laptop Worth It?
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89 thoughts on “Is a $650 Gaming Laptop Worth It?

  • July 26, 2019 at 6:40 pm
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    3:12 wtf are u fucking me this is a stolen clip from a youtuber

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  • July 26, 2019 at 8:18 pm
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    My fortnite lags with this

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  • July 27, 2019 at 9:49 am
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    Bro can u suggest the best one this or Asus tuffgaming ?

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  • July 27, 2019 at 12:32 pm
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    Lookin to buy this about a year later, and I was curious, does the trackpad have precision drivers now?

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  • July 28, 2019 at 10:29 am
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    maaan, i like the intel stickers. they look cool and If I pay 1k+ for a laptop with a high end intel i7, I'm gonna need some way to discretely flex on everybody around me.

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  • July 28, 2019 at 9:09 pm
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    So hp Pavillion x360 is better than this?

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  • July 30, 2019 at 6:31 pm
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    Pfft I can buy a 980m laptop for $650 used is always better the slim laptops are always overpriced . Got a g75vx, it's alot better and got it for $200 3gb 670mx

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  • August 1, 2019 at 12:14 pm
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    this guys voice so irritating

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  • August 4, 2019 at 3:28 am
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    Guys my Sister is pregnant, leave me a like

    I’m gonna be a dad!!

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  • August 7, 2019 at 1:56 pm
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    I actually have this pc and its not bad. The biggest problem is when i play a game like Beamng Drive. I may have 42 mods but i dont think thats the issue. The issue is that when i use a REALLY fast car like The F1 2017 car, and go over 200 mph it just freezes and the screen turns like grey so i have to turn it on and off.

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  • August 7, 2019 at 3:17 pm
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    Or 300

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  • August 7, 2019 at 4:49 pm
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    is austin evans worth it?

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  • August 9, 2019 at 5:32 pm
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    Austin there is a laptop with r5 2500u for 600€

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  • August 12, 2019 at 1:39 pm
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    I’m impressed since it’s a touch screen that flips around into tablet mode as well as a light gaming laptop for under $1000!! I’ve been looking for something like this!!

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  • August 12, 2019 at 7:47 pm
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    I have this laptop😂

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  • August 12, 2019 at 8:49 pm
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    That’s like £1300

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  • August 17, 2019 at 4:04 am
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    Well lesson learnt….this is not a gaming PC…its a work PC that can run games

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  • August 17, 2019 at 2:59 pm
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    I got a 600 dollar one with a i5 8th gen with 4 cores and nvidia 1050 and overclockable display around 120 hz when overclocked, and in games like fortnite i get 240 fps and gta i get above 100 fps

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  • August 18, 2019 at 1:05 pm
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    I built my pc for $530 and it can run way better than this and was $120 cheaper 🤦🏼‍♂️

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  • August 20, 2019 at 2:14 am
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    30-50 fps is not playable. Some just don't have an option.

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  • August 20, 2019 at 6:26 am
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    still better than macbook

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  • August 24, 2019 at 3:41 am
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    has a very powerful Cpew

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  • August 25, 2019 at 4:54 am
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    Tell me, can I run solidworks 2018 on this card amd?

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  • August 26, 2019 at 12:52 am
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    I waited over 1 yr to buy… was worth it😁👍 has ssd, pad super responsive, especially for us who have calloused fingers! Runs my Clip Studio Paint with huge files easy. But does not come with pen, got Bamboo pen 40$ off at Bestbuy…. HP Envy x360 is $640.00 at bestbut

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  • August 27, 2019 at 2:16 am
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    Is there any better touchscreen gaming laptops than this with decent battery life for under $800?

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  • August 30, 2019 at 2:20 am
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    Is it better then the acer nitro 5?

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  • September 2, 2019 at 5:37 pm
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    It's 150$ here in bangladesh XD but second hand with a pretty good condition 😀

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  • September 4, 2019 at 4:56 am
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    2:27 i have the same laptop with 16gig but it still cant run csgo good

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  • September 4, 2019 at 10:07 am
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    I don't even have $10 right now

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  • September 6, 2019 at 6:34 pm
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    I am buying it eny tips

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  • September 9, 2019 at 9:12 pm
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    have the 13" it have SSD 256 GB and 8GB ram.. for the price it is good 4500 DK in denmark

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  • September 10, 2019 at 11:58 pm
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    1$ vs 987$ Pork Worth it??

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  • September 14, 2019 at 4:56 am
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    Ryzen mobile is trash so ima just avoid this laptop entirely

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  • September 14, 2019 at 5:13 am
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    So is nobody gonna mention that he played Daddy Doug's video

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  • September 15, 2019 at 10:31 pm
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    I can never get the prices he claims 😭

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  • September 18, 2019 at 2:01 am
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    Isn't this laptop supposed to have shitty thermals and like drivers that haven't been updated in a year…?

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  • September 19, 2019 at 5:37 pm
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    Is VR working? Is Life Working?

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  • September 20, 2019 at 5:26 am
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    The 1050 ti is 201% faster

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  • September 20, 2019 at 7:46 am
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    I wonder if Austin is as annoying when he speaks in real life?

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  • September 20, 2019 at 9:32 am
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    Do u have a gf

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  • September 21, 2019 at 8:27 pm
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    1 year later $729.95 in the US 1.029 € in my country

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  • September 22, 2019 at 3:11 am
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    Just save up your money.

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  • September 22, 2019 at 6:35 pm
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    Ryzen 7 mobile would be better, Zephyrus G has proven it. Decent performance with business laptop level battery life.

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  • September 23, 2019 at 1:39 am
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    my old envy from years ago was $600 with a dedicated GPU in it, I don't remember the exact specs but I know I played AC4 on it

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  • September 23, 2019 at 6:55 pm
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    Not worth it . You can get a laptop with a gtx 1050 ti for the same price.

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  • September 24, 2019 at 12:23 am
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    I had the envy x360 before now I have the hp envy 17t with design on the hinge I really miss my x360

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  • September 24, 2019 at 1:13 am
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    Asus haa something at $550 with R5 3500U

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  • September 24, 2019 at 10:25 am
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    It's worth it, because the number pad can be used for a game called Rigs of Rods.

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  • September 24, 2019 at 10:21 pm
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    Intel: Hold my beer

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  • September 26, 2019 at 10:52 pm
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    Alright I've had a HP gaming laptop for 3years now and I can confirm it is not worth it at all. Especially if your playing more then 4hours a day because your going to have to plug it in while u playing damaging your battery. My battery has fully died in less then a year

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  • September 27, 2019 at 5:38 am
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    Wow I wish I bought this
    I bought a laptop with intel Celeron quad core 2.4ghz for 700 dollars a true rip off and the store and school recommended it the only good thing is long battery

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  • September 29, 2019 at 12:49 am
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    650$ for a no GPU "gaming" laptop? No thanks. You can buy many 1050 ti laptops from 2018 on amazon now for about the same price. This is no where near a good deal.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 6:07 pm
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    Is mass genocide worth it?

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  • October 5, 2019 at 7:57 pm
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    4:35 Austin the type of guy to play a Doug Demuro videos on his video from a laptop.

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  • October 6, 2019 at 5:25 am
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    I literally had this laptop and I’m telling you it’s shit. The Ryzen 5 never turbos because it’s super picky about thermals and power throttled all the time. I’ve never seen it go above 2.8 GHz. The Radeon Vega 8 is meh. I played TF2 with 50 FPS avg. It couldn’t even handle CS GO. I had everything on low and it was averaging at 55 FPS.

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  • October 9, 2019 at 1:46 am
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    Yes, but not this one. One that is worth it is the Acer nitro 5 amd version on Best Buy

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  • October 9, 2019 at 7:31 pm
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    Hey guys Scott here
    Hey guys this is Austin
    Man the similarities 😂😂

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  • October 10, 2019 at 12:23 am
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    aha huh where is fortnite?

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  • October 12, 2019 at 2:28 am
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    im pretty sure you don't understand how gaming laptops work, you could litterally buy a acer 960m laptop and still hit those frames or better for the same price, also a used gaming laptop can make a world of difference in performance with less cost.

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  • October 12, 2019 at 3:44 pm
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    It's not a gaming laptop but you can use to play some games on low to medium setting

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  • October 14, 2019 at 1:12 am
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    No get the nitro 5

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  • October 14, 2019 at 9:32 am
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    Hey Austin, a guy is this

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  • October 14, 2019 at 10:08 pm
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    1 yr later it is 100 dolla more and not worth

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  • October 19, 2019 at 1:22 am
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    I'M ON MY THIRD ONE OF THESE BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX……literally the first 2 came out of the box broken the first one the hinge creaked and snapped , the second had dead pixels, but the third one was fine.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 9:14 pm
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    the graphics might be powerful but the cpu is s h i t. I have the same computer and litterally in minecraft it bottlenecks an integrated gpu, and then i only gt like 3-10fps. BUt it only happens for 20seconds. AFter that at the lowest graphics settings for everything, it gets 60fps or more and when you are lucky 144fps or more but that is only at the extremelyy lowest settinggs

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  • October 20, 2019 at 9:20 pm
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    this laptop is a rip off. IF just $30 extra you can get the same laptop but with an i5 8265u and an m150 4gb graphics card and 12gb ram instead of the 8gb you get in this shitty computer.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 9:23 pm
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    Hp makes really good looking laptops. BUt this is a problem with all of their laptops excefpt of the elitebook. Spectre has the problems too. They all have wobly hinges, A lot a glare on the screen, And the chassis and screen flex a little bit, lower color gamut unless it is oled, and the touchpad. If they could fix all of these problems little you would have a serious macbook pro killer.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 9:25 pm
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    it is not a hard drive, it is an nvme ssd

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  • October 23, 2019 at 3:32 pm
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    hp computers are the most unreliable pieces of shit hardware that can be made.
    dont want problems ? dont want your pc to die on the day following yur warranty expiration ?
    stay away from hp…

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  • October 24, 2019 at 7:08 am
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    No Kensington lock for my abusive girlfriend?
    dislike

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  • October 24, 2019 at 3:16 pm
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    * I own an HP Envy x360 and it has many known issues that HP ignored and doesn't deal with. The concept of this laptop is amazing and I have played ARK on it, but the ventilation is no good for gaming. It also has major speaker driver issues and will randomly stop rendering audio. I restart it about 10 times a day to get the audio working. Then just this week after I completely wiped it to see if that would help – now it is making crackling noises and the volume will fade in and out. You will definitely need to add memory as well. I love the backlit keyboard and the touch screen. It is a beautiful laptop for the price but like he said when the screen is tilted the wrong way it is hard to see. all these issues made it unusable.

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  • October 24, 2019 at 3:20 pm
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    He looks and sounds like plainrock124

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  • October 24, 2019 at 6:52 pm
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    Please review Lenovo flex 14 ryzen powered.

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  • October 25, 2019 at 9:17 pm
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    Bullshit your review, where Wither 3 or Battlefiled in rest?

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  • October 25, 2019 at 11:29 pm
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    Yo Austin u watch DougDeMero

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  • October 26, 2019 at 1:38 pm
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    Is a used condom worth it?

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  • October 26, 2019 at 2:54 pm
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    maybe iam coming to this from the wrong angle but..well i was looking for a gaming capable laptop to play when iam in a hotel for a weekend and stuff like that. so power consumption isnt a concern. my "old" desktop pc, was from 2012. a intel i5 3550 and a gtx 670. thats 7 years old, market price used? around 150 bucks for those parts. thing is, even 500 dollar laptops dont deliver the performance that 7 year old desktop had. to be honest, i thought laptop hardware more capable for the price then it really was. iam not planing on playing witcher 3 on ultra @ 1080p with 50 fps. but if it cant run skyrim, a game from 8 years ago on high with nativ display resolution, then i dont know. long story short. i expected a midrange "gaming" laptop from 2018/19 to be as capable as a 850 dollar computer from 2012.

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  • October 27, 2019 at 2:03 pm
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    The Graphics Driver possibly had an update that it was doing in the background.

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  • October 29, 2019 at 10:14 pm
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    im useing amd a8 it it pretty trash right

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  • November 5, 2019 at 3:20 pm
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    This doesn't come with a fingerprint scanner.

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  • November 6, 2019 at 8:51 am
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    Who gets 300 thousand frames in CS GO

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  • November 7, 2019 at 3:00 pm
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    thunderbolt 3??????

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  • November 7, 2019 at 5:39 pm
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    when it's 650 USD so you go to look at it and now it's 950 CAD

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  • November 7, 2019 at 10:00 pm
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    Nope

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  • November 11, 2019 at 3:41 pm
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    This laptop is $600 right now on the HP website, in case anyone was still wondering…

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  • November 11, 2019 at 5:09 pm
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    Does anyone else notice his hair looks different in this video

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  • November 12, 2019 at 5:08 am
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    You think more worth than HP Business 15.6 Touchscreen

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  • November 12, 2019 at 9:49 am
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    His next video is life worth it

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